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Socrates
Soc. Well, that is just what we suggested a little while ago—that Socrates, in using words to talk with Alcibiades, is holding speech, not with your face, it would seem, but with Alcibiades—that is, with his soul.
Alcibiades
Alc. I believe so.
Socrates
Soc. Then he who enjoins a knowledge of oneself bids us become acquainted with the soul.
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Alcibiades
Alc. So it seems.
Socrates
Soc. And anyone who gets to know something belonging to the body knows the things that are his, but not himself.
Alcibiades
Alc. That is so.
Socrates
Soc. Then no physician, in so far as he is a physician, knows himself, nor does any trainer, in so far as he is a trainer.
Alcibiades
Alc. It seems not.
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Socrates
Soc. And farmers, and craftsmen generally, are far from knowing themselves. For these people, it would seem, do not even know their own things, but only things still more remote than their own things, in respect of the arts which they follow; since they know but the things of the body, with which it is tended.
Alcibiades
Alc. That is true.
Socrates
Soc. So if knowing oneself is temperance, none of these people is temperate in respect of his art.
Alcibiades
Alc. None, I agree.
Socrates
Soc. And that is why these arts are held to be sordid, and no acquirements for a good man.
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Alcibiades
Alc. Quite so.
Socrates
Soc. Then once again, whoever tends his body tends his own things, but not himself?
Alcibiades
Alc. It looks rather like it.
Socrates
Soc. But whoever tends his money tends neither himself nor his own things, but only things yet more remote than his own things?
Alcibiades
Alc. I agree.
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Socrates
Soc. So that the money-maker has ceased to do his own business.
