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Socrates
Soc. Well, can you say that good men are also bad?
Alcibiades
Alc. No, indeed.
Socrates
Soc. But whoever do you mean by the good?
Alcibiades
Alc. I mean those who are able to rule in the city.
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Socrates
Soc. Not, I presume, over horses?
Socrates
Soc. But over men?
Socrates
Soc. When they are sick?
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Alcibiades
Alc. I say, no.
Socrates
Soc. Or harvesting?
Socrates
Soc. Doing nothing, or doing something?
Alcibiades
Alc. Doing something, I say.
Socrates
Soc. Doing what? Try and let me know.
Alcibiades
Alc. Well, men who do business with each other and make use of one another, as is our way of life in our cities.
Socrates
Soc. Then you speak of ruling over men who make use of men?
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