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Alcibiades

Alc. Well, I am considering, but I fail to perceive it.

Socrates

Soc. But you must know what treatment it is that we allege against each other when we enter upon a war, and what name we give it when we do so? 5

Alcibiades

Alc. I do: we say we are victims of deceit or violence or spoliation.

Socrates

Soc. Enough: how do we suffer each of these things? Try and tell me what difference there is between one way and another.

Alcibiades

Alc. Do you mean by that, Socrates, whether it is in a just way or an unjust way?

Socrates

Soc. Precisely.

Alcibiades

Alc. Why, there you have all the difference in the world. 10

Socrates

Soc. Well then, on which sort are you going to advise the Athenians to make war—those who are acting unjustly, or those who are doing what is just?

Alcibiades

Alc. That is a hard question: for even if someone decides that he must go to war with those who are doing what is just, he would not admit that they were doing so.

Socrates

Soc. For that would not be lawful, I suppose?

Alcibiades

Alc. No, indeed; nor is it considered honorable either.

Socrates

Soc. So you too will appeal to these things in making your speeches? 15

Alcibiades

Alc. Necessarily.

Socrates

Soc. Then must not that better about which I was asking in reference to making or not making war, on those on whom we ought to or not, and when we ought to or not, be simply and solely the juster?

Alcibiades

Alc. Apparently it is.