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Protarchus

Pro. It is a great absurdity, as it appears, Socrates, to tell us that pleasure is a good. 5

Socrates

Soc. Yes, a great absurdity, and let us go still further.

Protarchus

Pro. How?

Socrates

Soc. Is it not absurd to say that there is nothing good in the body or many other things, but only in the soul, and that in the soul the only good is pleasure, and that courage and self-restraint and understanding and all the other good things of the soul are nothing of the sort; and beyond all this to be obliged to say that he who is not feeling pleasure, and is feeling pain, is bad when he feels pain, though he be the best of men, and that he who feels pleasure is, when he feels pleasure, the more excellent in virtue the greater the pleasure he feels?

Protarchus

Pro. All that, Socrates, is the height of absurdity.

Socrates

Soc. Now let us not undertake to subject pleasure to every possible test and then be found to give mind and knowledge very gentle treatment. Let us rather strike them boldly everywhere to see if their metal rings unsound at any point; so we shall find out what is by nature purest in them, and then we can make use of the truest elements of these and of pleasure to form our judgement of both. 10

Protarchus

Pro. Right.

Socrates

Soc. Well, then, one part of knowledge is productive, the other has to do with education and support. Is that true?

Protarchus

Pro. It is.

Socrates

Soc. Let us first consider whether in the manual arts one part is more allied to knowledge, and the other less, and the one should be regarded as purest, the other as less pure.

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