Thesauros Edebiyat Felsefe Φίληβος

Φίληβος

Φίληβος Plato

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Socrates
Soc. It will appear that the forms of knowledge collectively are many and some of them are unlike each other; but if some of them turn out to be actually opposites, should I be fit to engage in dialectics now if, through fear of just that, I should say that no form of knowledge is unlike any other, and then, as a consequence, our argument should vanish and be lost, like a tale that is told, and we ourselves should be saved by clinging to some irrational notion?
Protarchus
Pro. No, that must never be, except the part about our being saved. However, I like the equal treatment of your doctrine and mine. Let us grant that pleasures are many and unlike and that the forms of knowledge are many and different.
Socrates
Soc. With no concealment, then, Protarchus, of the difference between my good and yours, but with fair and open acknowledgement of it, let us be bold and see if perchance on examination they will tell us whether we should say that pleasure is the good, or wisdom, or some other third principle. For surely the object of our present controversy is not to gain the victory for my assertions or yours, but both of us must fight for the most perfect truth.
Protarchus
Pro. Yes, we must.
Socrates
Soc. Then let us establish this principle still more firmly by means of an agreement. 5
Protarchus
Pro. What principle?
Socrates
Soc. The principle which gives trouble to all men, to some of them sometimes against their will.
Protarchus
Pro. Speak more plainly.

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