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Socrates

Soc. We grant you all this let us say to them. But answer me this, Protarchus, are we and all other living beings always conscious of everything that happens to us of our growth and all that sort of thing—or is the truth quite the reverse of that? 5

Protarchus

Pro. Quite the reverse, surely; for we are almost entirely unconscious of everything of that sort.

Socrates

Soc. Then we were not right in saying just now that the fluctuations and changes cause pains and pleasures.

Protarchus

Pro. No, certainly not.

Socrates

Soc. A better and more unassailable statement would be this.

Protarchus

Pro. What? 10

Socrates

Soc. That the great changes cause pains and pleasures in us, but the moderate and small ones cause no pains or pleasures at all.

Protarchus

Pro. That is more correct than the other statement, Socrates.

Socrates

Soc. But if that is the case, the life of which we spoke just now would come back again.

Protarchus

Pro. What life?

Socrates

Soc. The life which we said was painless and without joys. 15

Protarchus

Pro. Very true.

Socrates

Soc. Let us, therefore, assume three lives, one pleasant, one painful, and one neither of the two; or do you disagree?

Protarchus

Pro. No, I agree to this, that there are the three lives.

Socrates

Soc. Then freedom from pain would not be identical with pleasure?

Protarchus

Pro. Certainly not. 20

Socrates

Soc. When you hear anyone say that the pleasantest of all things is to live all one’s life without pain, what do you understand him to mean?

Protarchus

Pro. I think he means that freedom from pain is pleasure.

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