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Φίληβος

Φίληβος Plato

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Socrates
Soc. Do you agree with us about the origin of pleasure?
Protarchus
Pro. What do you think it is? 10
Socrates
Soc. I think pain and pleasure naturally originate in the combined class.
Protarchus
Pro. Please, my dear Socrates, remind us which of the aforesaid classes you mean by the combined class.
Socrates
Soc. I will do so, as well as I can, my brilliant friend.
Protarchus
Pro. Thank you.
Socrates
Soc. By combined class, then, let us understand that which we said was the third of the four. 15
Protarchus
Pro. The one you mentioned after the infinite and the finite, and in which you put health and also, I believe, harmony?
Socrates
Soc. You are quite right. Now please pay very close attention.
Protarchus
Pro. I will. Say on.
Socrates
Soc. I say, then, that when, in us living beings, harmony is broken up, a disruption of nature and a generation of pain also take place at the same moment.
Protarchus
Pro. What you say is very likely. 20
Socrates
Soc. But if harmony is recomposed and returns to its own nature, then I say that pleasure is generated, if I may speak in the fewest and briefest words about matters of the highest import.
Protarchus
Pro. I think you are right, Socrates; but let us try to be more explicit.
Socrates
Soc. It is easiest to understand common and obvious examples, is it not?
Protarchus
Pro. What examples?
Socrates
Soc. Is hunger a kind of breaking up and a pain? 25
Protarchus
Pro. Yes.
Socrates
Soc. And eating, which is a filling up again, is a pleasure?
Protarchus
Pro. Yes.

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