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Εὐθύφρων Plato

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Socrates
Socrates. Then one does not see it because its a seen thing, but, on the contrary, it is a seen thing because one sees it; and one does not lead it because it is a led thing, but it is a led thing because one leads it; and one does not carry it because it is a carried thing, but it is a carried thing because one carries it. Is it clear, Euthyphro, what I am trying to say? I am trying to say this, that if anything becomes or undergoes, it does not become because it is in a state of becoming, but it is in a state of becoming because it becomes, and it does not undergo because it is a thing which undergoes, but because it undergoes it is a thing which undergoes; or do you not agree to this?
Euthyphro
Euthyphro. I agree.
Socrates
Socrates. Is not that which is beloved a thing which is either becoming or undergoing something?
Euthyphro
Euthyphro. Certainly.
Socrates
Socrates. And is this case like the former ones: those who love it do not love it because it is a beloved thing, but it is a beloved thing because they love it? 15
Euthyphro
Euthyphro. Obviously.
Socrates
Socrates. Now what do you say about that which is holy, Euthyphro. It is loved by all the gods, is it not, according to what you said?
Euthyphro
Euthyphro. Yes.
Socrates
Socrates. For this reason, because it is holy, or for some other reason?
Euthyphro
Euthyphro. No, for this reason. 20
Socrates
Socrates. It is loved because it is holy, not holy because it is loved?
Euthyphro
Euthyphro. I think so.
Socrates
Socrates. But that which is dear to the gods is dear to them and beloved by them because they love it.
Euthyphro
Euthyphro. Of course.

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