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İngilizce Yunanca

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Clinias

Clin. We are, apparently, partly in accord, but partly quite the reverse.

Athenian

Ath. Take the case of a man who has health and wealth and absolute power in perpetuity,—in addition to which I bestow on him, if you like, matchless strength and courage, together with immortality and freedom from all the other evils so called,—but a man who has within him nothing but injustice and insolence: probably I fail to convince you that the man who lives such a life is obviously not happy but wretched?

Clinias

Clin. Quite true.

Athenian

Ath. Well, then, what ought I to say next? Do you not think that if a man who is courageous, strong, beautiful, and rich, and who does exactly as he likes all his life long, is really unjust and insolent, he must necessarily be living a base life? Probably you will agree at any rate to call it base?

Clinias

Clin. Certainly.

Athenian

Ath. And also a bad lifeκακῶς ζῆν, to live badly may mean either to live wickedly or to live wretchedly: Clinias takes it in this latter sense.?

Clinias

Clin. We would not go so far as to admit that.

Athenian

Ath. Well, would you admit the epithets unpleasant and unprofitable to himself? 5

Clinias

Clin. How could we agree to such further descriptions?