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Socrates
Soc. Well, that whereby we know how to govern men in gymnastic training?
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Socrates
Soc. For that is gymnastics?
Socrates
Soc. Well, to govern people who do what? Endeavor your best to speak, as I did to you at the beginning.
Theages
The. To govern the people in the city, I imagine.
Socrates
Soc. And are the sick people also in the city?
Theages
The. Yes, but I mean not these only, but all the rest who are in the city besides.
Socrates
Soc. Do I understand what art it is that you mean? For you strike me as meaning, not that whereby we know how to govern reapers and harvesters and planters and sowers and threshers, for it is the farmer’s art whereby we govern these, is it not?
Socrates
Soc. Nor, I suppose, do you mean that whereby we know how to govern sawyers and borers and planers and turners, as a class together; for is not that carpentry?
Socrates
Soc. But perhaps it is that whereby we govern, not only all these, but farmers themselves also, and carpenters, and all craftsmen and ordinary people, whether men or women: that, perhaps, is the wisdom you mean.
Theages
The. That, Socrates, is what I have been intending to mean all the time.
Socrates
Soc. Then can you tell me whether Aegisthus, who slew Agamemnon in Argos, governed all these people that you mean craftsmen and ordinary people, both men and women, or some other persons?
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Theages
The. No, just those.
Socrates
Soc. Well now, did not Peleus, son of Aeacus, govern these same people in Phthia?
