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Ἀλκιβιάδης βʹ

Ἀλκιβιάδης βʹ Plato

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Socrates
Soc. Yes, you would, I expect, when you saw each one of them vying with the other and assigning the largest part in the conduct of the state to thatWherein himself is found most excellent,Eur. Antiope, Fr. Cf. Plat. Gorg. 484e. I mean, what is done best by rule of his particular art—while he is entirely off the track of what is best for the state and for himself, because, I conceive, he has put his trust in opinion apart from intelligence. In these circumstances, should we not be right in saying that such a state is one great mass of turmoil and lawlessness?
Alcibiades
Alc. We should, upon my word.
Socrates
Soc. And we took it to be necessary that we should first think we know, or really know, anything that we confidently intend either to do or to say?
Alcibiades
Alc. We did. 5
Socrates
Soc. And if a man does what he knows or thinks he knows, and is assisted by knowing how to make it beneficial, we shall find him profitable both to the city and to himself?
Alcibiades
Alc. Certainly.
Socrates
Soc. But if, I suppose, he does the contrary, he will not be so either to the city or to himself?
Alcibiades
Alc. No, indeed.
Socrates
Soc. Well then, do you still take the same view now as before, or do you think differently? 10
Alcibiades
Alc. No, I take the same view.
Socrates
Soc. And you said you called the many unwise, and the few wise?
Alcibiades
Alc. I did.
Socrates
Soc. So now we repeat our statement that the many have missed getting the best because in most cases, I conceive, they have put their trust in opinion apart from intelligence.
Alcibiades
Alc. Yes. 15

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