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Socrates

Soc. And you too, who learnt from him, will be able to make another man wise?

Alcibiades

Alc. Yes.

Socrates

Soc. And the same holds of the harper and the trainer?

Alcibiades

Alc. Certainly. 20

Socrates

Soc. For, I presume, it is a fine proof of one’s knowing anything that one knows, when one is able to point to another man whom one has made to know it.

Alcibiades

Alc. I agree.

Socrates

Soc. Well then, can you tell me whom Pericles made wise? One of his sons, to begin with?

Alcibiades

Alc. But what if the two sons of Pericles were simpletons, Socrates?

Socrates

Soc. Well, Cleinias, your brother. 25

Alcibiades

Alc. But why should you mention Cleinias, a madman?

Socrates

Soc. Well, if Cleinias is mad and the two sons of Pericles were simpletons, what reason are we to assign, in your case, for his allowing you to be in your present condition?

Alcibiades

Alc. I believe I am myself to blame for not attending to him.

Socrates

Soc. But tell me of any other Athenian or foreigner, slave or freeman, who is accounted to have become wiser through converse with Pericles; as I can tell you that Pythodorus A friend of Zeno: cf. Plat. Parm. 126. son of Isolochus, and Callias, An Athenian general. son of Calliades, became through that of Zeno Of Elea, in S. Italy; a disciple of Parmenides who criticized the Pythagorean teaching.; each of them has paid Zeno a hundred minae, About 600-800 pounds, or the total expenses of two or three years at an English University. and has become both wise and distinguished.

Alcibiades

Alc. Well, upon my word, I cannot.