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Socrates
Soc. Is that because you think the former best, and the latter worst?
Alcibiades
Alc. To be sure.
Socrates
Soc. So you reckon courage among the best things, and death among the worst.
Socrates
Soc. Then the rescue of one’s friends in battle, inasmuch as it is noble in respect of the working of good by courage, you have termed noble?
Alcibiades
Alc. Apparently.
Socrates
Soc. But evil, in respect of the working of evil by death?
Socrates
Soc. So we may fairly describe each of these workings as follows: as you call either of them evil because of the evil it produces, so you must call it good because of the good it produces.
Alcibiades
Alc. I believe that is so.
Socrates
Soc. And again, are they noble inasmuch as they are good, and base inasmuch as they are evil?
Socrates
Soc. Then in saying that the rescue of one’s friends in battle is noble and yet evil, you mean just the same as if you called the rescue good, but evil.
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Alcibiades
Alc. I believe what you say is true, Socrates.
Socrates
Soc. So nothing noble, in so far as it is noble, is evil, and nothing base, in so far as it is base, is good.
Alcibiades
Alc. Apparently.
Socrates
Soc. Now then, consider it again in this way: whoever does nobly, does well too, does he not?
Socrates
Soc. And are not those who do well happy?
Alcibiades
Alc. Of course.