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Protarchus
Pro. I think that is what we should do.
Socrates
Soc. Let us assume, then, a man who possesses wisdom about the nature of justice itself, and reason in accordance with his wisdom, and has the same kind of knowledge of all other things.
Socrates
Soc. Now will this man have sufficient knowledge, if he is master of the theory of the divine circle and sphere, but is ignorant of our human sphere and human circles, even when he uses these and other kinds of rules or patterns in building houses?
Protarchus
Pro. We call that a ridiculous state of intellect in a man, Socrates, which is concerned only with divine knowledge.
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Socrates
Soc. What? Do you mean to say that the uncertain and impure art of the false rule and circle is to be put into our mixture?
Protarchus
Pro. Yes, that is inevitable, if any man is ever to find his own way home.
Socrates
Soc. And must we add music, which we said a little while ago was full of guesswork and imitation and lacked purity?
Protarchus
Pro. Yes, I think we must, if our life is to be life at all.
Socrates
Soc. Shall I, then, like a doorkeeper who is pushed and hustled by a mob, give up, open the door, and let all the kinds of knowledge stream in, the impure mingling with the pure?
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Protarchus
Pro. I do not know, Socrates, what harm it can do a man to take in all the other kinds of knowledge if he has the first.
Socrates
Soc. Shall I, then, let them all flow into what Homer very poetically calls the mingling of the vales?Hom. Il. 4.453.
Protarchus
Pro. Certainly.