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Φίληβος

Φίληβος Plato

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Protarchus
Pro. Certainly. 10
Socrates
Soc. Surely there is greater hope that the object of our search will be clearly present in the well mixed life than in the life which is not well mixed?
Protarchus
Pro. Far greater.
Socrates
Soc. Let us make the mixture, Protarchus, with a prayer to the gods, to Dionysus or Hephaestus, or whoever he be who presides over the mixing.
Protarchus
Pro. By all means.
Socrates
Soc. We are like wine-pourers, and beside us are fountains—that of pleasure may be likened to a fount of honey, and the sober, wineless fount of wisdom to one of pure, health-giving water—of which we must do our best to mix as well as possible. 15
Protarchus
Pro. Certainly we must.
Socrates
Soc. Before we make the mixture, tell me: should we be most likely to succeed by mixing all pleasure with all wisdom?
Protarchus
Pro. Perhaps.
Socrates
Soc. But that is not safe; and I think I can offer a plan by which we can make our mixture with less risk.
Protarchus
Pro. What is it? 20
Socrates
Soc. We found, I believe, that one pleasure was greater than another and one art more exact than another?
Protarchus
Pro. Certainly.
Socrates
Soc. And knowledge was of two kinds, one turning its eyes towards transitory things, the other towards things which neither come into being nor pass away, but are the same and immutable for ever. Considering them with a view to truth, we judged that the latter was truer than the former.
Protarchus
Pro. That is quite right.
Socrates
Soc. Then what if we first mix the truest sections of each and see whether, when mixed together, they are capable of giving us the most adorable life, or whether we still need something more and different? 25

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