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Socrates

Soc. We accept that as our judgement, and relying upon you we make this confident reply to those who are clever in straining arguments— 15

Protarchus

Pro. What reply?

Socrates

Soc. That there are two arts of arithmetic and two of measuring, and many other arts which, like these, are twofold in this way, but possess a single name in common.

Protarchus

Pro. Let us give this answer, Socrates, to those who you say are clever; I hope we shall have luck with it.

Socrates

Soc. These, then, we say, are the most exact arts or sciences?

Protarchus

Pro. Certainly. 20

Socrates

Soc. But the art of dialectic would spurn us, Protarchus, if we should judge that any other art is preferable to her.

Protarchus

Pro. But what is the art to which this name belongs?

Socrates

Soc. Clearly anybody can recognize the art I mean; for I am confident that all men who have any intellect whatsoever believe that the knowledge which has to do with being, reality, and eternal immutability is the truest kind of knowledge. What do you think, Protarchus?

Protarchus

Pro. I have often heard Gorgias constantly maintain that the art of persuasion surpasses all others for this, he said, makes all things subject to itself, not by force, but by their free will, and is by far the best of all arts; so now I hardly like to oppose either him or you.

Socrates

Soc. It seems to me that you wanted to speak and threw down your arms out of modesty.

Protarchus

Pro. Very well; have it as you like.

Socrates

Soc. Is it my fault that you have misunderstood? 5

Protarchus

Pro. Misunderstood what?

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