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Protarchus

Pro. I can hardly understand after all your repetition. 25

Socrates

Soc. Perhaps, my boy, you will understand better as the discussion proceeds.

Protarchus

Pro. I hope so.

Socrates

Soc. Let us take another pair.

Protarchus

Pro. What are they?

Socrates

Soc. One is the generation of all things (the process of coming into being), the other is existence or being. 5

Protarchus

Pro. I accept your two, generation and being.

Socrates

Soc. Quite right. Now which of these shall we say is for the sake of the other, generation for the sake of being, or being for the sake of generation?

Protarchus

Pro. You are now asking whether that which is called being is what it is for the sake of generation?

Socrates

Soc. Yes, plainly.

Protarchus

Pro. For Heaven’s sake, is this the kind of question you keep asking me, Tell me, Protarchus, whether you think shipbuilding is for the sake of ships, or ships for the sake of shipbuilding, and all that sort of thing? 10

Socrates

Soc. Yes; that is just what I mean, Protarchus.

Protarchus

Pro. Then why did you not answer it yourself, Socrates?

Socrates

Soc. There is no reason why I should not; but I want you to take part in the discussion.

Protarchus

Pro. Certainly.

Socrates

Soc. I say that drugs and all sorts of instruments and materials are always employed for the sake of production or generation, but that every instance of generation is for the sake of some being or other, and generation in general is for the sake of being in general. 15

Protarchus

Pro. That is very clear.

Socrates

Soc. Then pleasure, if it is a form of generation, would be generated for the sake of some form of being.

Protarchus

Pro. Of course.

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