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Socrates
Soc. And further let us add to these the pleasures of knowledge, if they appear to us not to have hunger for knowledge or pangs of such hunger as their source.
Protarchus
Pro. I agree to that.
Socrates
Soc. Well, if men are full of knowledge and then lose it through forgetfulness, do you see any pains in the losses?
Protarchus
Pro. Not by their inherent nature, but sometimes there is pain in reflecting on the event, when a man who has lost knowledge is pained by the lack of it.
Socrates
Soc. True, my dear fellow, but just at present we are recounting natural feelings only, not reflection.
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Protarchus
Pro. Then you are right in saying that we feel no pain in the loss of knowledge.
Socrates
Soc. Then we may say that these pleasures of knowledge are unmixed with pain and are felt not by the many but only by very few.
Protarchus
Pro. Yes, certainly.
Socrates
Soc. And now that we have fairly well separated the pure pleasures and those which may be pretty correctly called impure, let us add the further statement that the intense pleasures are without measure and those of the opposite sort have measure; those which admit of greatness and intensity and are often or seldom great or intense we shall assign to the class of the infinite, which circulates more or less freely through the body and soul alike, and the others we shall assign to the class of the limited.
Protarchus
Pro. Quite right, Socrates.
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Socrates
Soc. There is still another question about them to be considered.
Protarchus
Pro. What is it?