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Protarchus

Pro. What are the consequences?

Socrates

Soc. This argument declares that we have no bodily desire.

Protarchus

Pro. How so? 20

Socrates

Soc. Because it shows that the endeavor of every living being is always towards the opposite of the actual conditions of the body.

Protarchus

Pro. Yes, certainly.

Socrates

Soc. And the impulse which leads towards the opposite of those conditions shows that there is a memory of the opposite of the conditions.

Protarchus

Pro. Certainly.

Socrates

Soc. And the argument, by showing that memory is that which leads us towards the objects of desire, has proved that all the impulse, the desire, and the ruling principle in every living being are of the soul. 25

Protarchus

Pro. Quite right.

Socrates

Soc. So the argument denies utterly that the body hungers or thirsts or has any such affection.

Protarchus

Pro. Very true.

Socrates

Soc. Let us consider a further point in connection with those very affections. For I think the purpose of the argument is to point out to us a state of life existing in them.

Protarchus

Pro. Of what sort of life are you speaking, and in what affections does it exist? 30

Socrates

Soc. In the affections of fulness and emptiness and all which pertain to the preservation and destruction of living beings, and I am thinking that if we fall into one of these we feel pain, which is followed by joy when we change to the other.

Protarchus

Pro. That is true.

Socrates

Soc. And what if a man is between the two?

Protarchus

Pro. How between them?