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Φίληβος

Φίληβος Plato

29–30

Protarchus
Pro. That question does not even deserve an answer.
Socrates
Soc. True; and you will, I fancy, say the same of the earth which is in us living creatures and that which is in the universe, and concerning all the other elements about which I asked a moment ago your answer will be the same. 15
Protarchus
Pro. Yes. Who could answer otherwise without being called a lunatic?
Socrates
Soc. Nobody, I fancy. Now follow the next step. When we see that all the aforesaid elements are gathered together into a unit, do we not call them a body?
Protarchus
Pro. Of course.
Socrates
Soc. Apply the same line of thought to that which we call the universe. It would likewise be a body, being composed of the same elements.
Protarchus
Pro. Quite right. 20
Socrates
Soc. Does our body derive, obtain, and possess from that body, or that body from ours, nourishment and everything else that we mentioned just now?
Protarchus
Pro. That, Socrates, is another question not worth asking.
Socrates
Soc. Well, is this next one worth asking? What will you say to it?
Protarchus
Pro. What is it?
Socrates
Soc. Shall we not say that our body has a soul?
Protarchus
Pro. Clearly we shall.
Socrates
Soc. Where did it get it, Protarchus, unless the body of the universe had a soul, since that body has the same elements as ours, only in every way superior? 5
Protarchus
Pro. Clearly it could get it from no other source.

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