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Φίληβος

Φίληβος Plato

20–21

Protarchus
Pro. The most perfect of all things, surely, Socrates.
Socrates
Soc. Well, and is the good sufficient?
Protarchus
Pro. Of course; so that it surpasses all other things in sufficiency.
Socrates
Soc. And nothing, I should say, is more certain about it than that every intelligent being pursues it, desires it, wishes to catch and get possession of it, and has no interest in anything in which the good is not included.
Protarchus
Pro. There is no denying that. 15
Socrates
Soc. Let us, then, look at the life of pleasure and the life of wisdom separately and consider and judge them.
Protarchus
Pro. How do you mean?
Socrates
Soc. Let there be no wisdom in the life of pleasure and no pleasure in the life of wisdom. For if either of them is the good, it cannot have need of anything else, and if, either be found to need anything, we can no longer regard it as our true good.
Protarchus
Pro. No, of course not.
Socrates
Soc. Shall we then undertake to test them through you?
Protarchus
Pro. By all means.
Socrates
Soc. Then answer. 5
Protarchus
Pro. Ask.
Socrates
Soc. Would you, Protarchus, be willing to live your whole life in the enjoyment of the greatest pleasures?
Protarchus
Pro. Of course I should.
Socrates
Soc. Would you think you needed anything further, if you were in complete possession of that enjoyment?
Protarchus
Pro. Certainly not. 10
Socrates
Soc. But consider whether you would not have some need of wisdom and intelligence and power of calculating your wants and the like.
Protarchus
Pro. Why should I? If I have enjoyment, I have everything.
Socrates
Soc. Then living thus you would enjoy the greatest pleasures all your life?

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