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Stranger
Str. So rhetoric also seems to have been quickly separated from statesmanship Cf. 303 C. as a different species, subservient to the other.
Younger Socrates
Y. Soc. Yes.
Stranger
Str. Here is another function or power; what are we to think about it?
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Younger Socrates
Y. Soc. What is it?
Stranger
Str. The power of determining how war shall be waged against those upon whom we have declared war, whether we are to call this a science or not a science?
Younger Socrates
Y. Soc. How could we think it is not a science, when generalship and all military activity practise it?
Stranger
Str. And the power which is able and knows how to deliberate and decide whether to make war or peace, shall we assume that it is the same as this or different?
Younger Socrates
Y. Soc. If we are consistent, we must assume that it is different.
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Stranger
Str. Shall we, then, assume that it controls the other, if we are to agree with our views in the former examples?
Younger Socrates
Y. Soc. Yes.
Stranger
Str. And what other art shall we make bold to declare is mistress of that great and terrible art, the art of war as a whole, except the truly kingly art?
Younger Socrates
Y. Soc. No other.
Stranger
Str. We shall, then, not call the art of the generals statesmanship, since it is subservient.
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Younger Socrates
Y. Soc. No; that would not be reasonable.
Stranger
Str. Now let us examine the function of the righteous judges.
Younger Socrates
Y. Soc. Certainly.
